Tips & Suggestions

[Connor Macleod]

I thought I'd start a thread for members to offer tips & suggestion on how they find ID's. I will delete this if nobody cares to offer anything, so here's the Chance.

Most everyone knows about reverse image search, but you may have other ideas. What are they?

 

[Felgen]

-Check it up against namethatpornstar.com
-Look for any logo in the scene/picture
-If a video, try googling the title, the clip might have been published elsewhere, containing IDs

 

[Connor Macleod]

-Check it up against namethatpornstar.com
-Look for any logo in the scene/picture
-If a video, try googling the title, the clip might have been published elsewhere, containing IDs

NameThatPornstar pisses me off a lot.

1. That damn CAPTCHA doesn't work half the time and you have to redo it.
2. Sometimes the image submit doesn't work. I can submit a pic and it doesn't work, but when I try Google, it sometimes finds the pic on there.

 

[Connor Macleod]

Here's a couple of tricks:

1. Lately, I've noticed people submitting pics that have been altered with a caption added to the bottom. Googling it finds nothing, but cropping the caption off the bottom will get results.
2. And, this week I saw two people submit pics that had been "flipped" (the watermark was reversed). Google shows nothing, but using a photo editor to reverse the image helped get results.

 

[Detectube]

- sometimes you can get good finds just searching with some keywords in google images if it's a niche video perhaps in combination with the color tool. same with emp, input tags and look over the results
- look over all comments on identical vids, works best on xhamster with very good related section. also you can find related vids with the length tag on ********* on any site

NameThatPornstar pisses me off a lot.

1. That damn CAPTCHA doesn't work half the time and you have to redo it.
2. Sometimes the image submit doesn't work. I can submit a pic and it doesn't work, but when I try Google, it sometimes finds the pic on there.

have you tried my site? quick paste link or download extension and you can query current url with a hotkey even(ctrl shift f), auto insert image
always looking for feedback

 

[Connor Macleod]

- sometimes you can get good finds just searching with some keywords in google images...

I learned that one a long time ago. The term, "name" is my favorite. "freeones" and "namethatpornstar" aren't bad if you think the image has been requested before.

have you tried my site?

I don't know what site that is, and don't post it. FreeOnes has a rule prohibiting members from promoting their site(s).

 

[Connor Macleod]

Very interesting and useful thread. Thanks.

It would be better if more members would contribute something. I'm thinking about just deleting this...

 

[legalize]

This may be obvious but was a query earlier this week for models in a music video, with two screenshots in the post. Simply googling "music video [artist] and the word "models" yielded the info in the top three or four search results.

 

[Connor Macleod]

This may be obvious but was a query earlier this week for models in a music video, with two screenshots in the post. Simply googling "music video [artist] and the word "models" yielded the info in the top three or four search results.

I hadn't even thought about videos, because I rarely even try (that is I rarely don't try to help others) to ID requests from video(s), because I'm not good at finding ID's from videos.

However, I do have a couple of tricks:

1. I use a site call iSpot (https://www.ispot.tv/). This is mainly for models/actresses you see in TV commercials. Go to the site, click the search, type in your query (EXAMPLE: Burger King) and then choose the commerical you're looking for and check the credits to see if the model is listed. Sometimes, you get lucky.
2. You can also see if the commercial is on YouTube and then check the comment section to see if anyone posted a model name (or you can ask for the model name).

 

[AaronSatie]

Any tips for finding amateurs? For instance, I'm trying to find a woman that has strictly done boob drops and flashing. There are a couple videos of the same poster, but she is strictly amateur (not even a camgirl).

 

[Connor Macleod]

Any tips for finding amateurs? For instance, I'm trying to find a woman that has strictly done boob drops and flashing. There are a couple videos of the same poster, but she is strictly amateur (not even a camgirl).

Reverse Image Search(ing) is probably your best option.

 

[gmase]

Googling the model's name and the gallery's title with 'indexxx' or 'nude.eu' helps me with aliases (especially those using one-letter surnames).

 

[Connor Macleod]

Googling the model's name and the gallery's title with 'indexxx' or 'nude.eu' helps me with aliases (especially those using one-letter surnames).

I do that sometimes myself, but I use "thenude" as a search criteria instead of "nude.eu".

 

[John_8581]

Here's a couple of tricks:

1. Lately, I've noticed people submitting pics that have been altered with a caption added to the bottom. Googling it finds nothing, but cropping the caption off the bottom will get results.
2. And, this week I saw two people submit pics that had been "flipped" (the watermark was reversed). Google shows nothing, but using a photo editor to reverse the image helped get results.

Flipping a watermark logo on a copyrighted image is a no-no. My meaning here; that's the words, "Brazzers, Naughty America, Bang Bros., Mofos, Wicked, Digital Playground, Playboy, Met-Art, etc." since that's considered questionable. Courts have ruled in favor of the content creators against sites and even uploaders. Because why flip the image in the first place? The uploader is trying to get one past the site moderators and admins where he's uploading to. Cropped images, taking the site logo off the picture, leads to other issues. It's bad but tolerable. And xhamster and other sites are allowed to have them in their inventory. What's really worse? An old and now defunct website, lazygirls.info ran into controversy and eventually lost lawsuits to photographers of copyrighted content years ago. Photographers brought class action lawsuits in California, Texas, Florida, Illinois, Ohio, New York, New Jersey, Nevada, Arizona, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia and Louisiana among other places where other adult photographers could join the suit. LG would scrub the photographer's site logo off the picture and put the lazygirls.info logo right onto the picture. You can't do that either.

I've seen videos at xhamster and xvideos where the uploader has edited, blocked or pixelated the site logo off the video. That tells me that the uploader is trying to pull a fast one by uploading altered content. By the way, that would also be considered stolen content. And if the webmaster/webmistress of the site that it was pulled from found out, he or she would want them to take it down. Now xvideos gets more take down requests than xhamster. You'll see "Video was deleted at xvideos" more times than not.

You can use reverse image search engines. For me, Yandex seems to be the most reliable. With Tineye, the change in Google search criteria, i.e. dropping potential copyrighted infringed images from the search, has adversely impacted Tineye. Five or ten years ago, Tineye would come back with pages and pages of results. Put that same image in Tineye now, zero results.

Using a reverse image search, if the picture has a smutty.com or sex.com caption at the bottom it may lead to an identification at those sites. Members seem to be quite knowledgeable over at those two places. If it comes back in an imgur result best to avoid it altogether because they'd want you to verify your information before you could view any adult content. If it comes back in a Pinterest result. Best to disregard all of them. People who post pictures onto their boards on Pinterest are really clueless. Then Pinterest has the gall to say that an image uploaded to their site is theirs. And they can do what they want with it. That may lead to being banned over there to the uploader/pinner for showing ladies naked from the waist down. You cannot do that -- show naked models below the waist -- over there at Pinterest.

As for namethatpornstar.com ... you can have a picture of Rachel Roxxx. You know it's Rachel Roxxx. Everyone else in the world knows it's Rachel Roxxx. However, the NTP website administrators want links with the pornstar's name, other pornstars who may be in the scene, the name of scene, etc and/or other corroborating evidence in order to get points. It's more cumbersome and restrictive than anything else. Eventually , the more points you get, the closer you get to calling it correct. Once it's correct, then it is solved.

 

[Connor Macleod]

Flipping a watermark logo on a copyrighted image is a no-no. My meaning here; that's the words, "Brazzers, Naughty America, Bang Bros., Mofos, Wicked, Digital Playground, Playboy, Met-Art, etc." since that's considered questionable. Courts have ruled in favor of the content creators against sites and even uploaders. Because why flip the image in the first place? The uploader is trying to get one past the site moderators and admins where he's uploading to. Cropped images, taking the site logo off the picture, leads to other issues. It's bad but tolerable. And xhamster and other sites are allowed to have them in their inventory. What's really worse? An old and now defunct website, lazygirls.info ran into controversy and eventually lost lawsuits to photographers of copyrighted content years ago. Photographers brought class action lawsuits in California, Texas, Florida, Illinois, Ohio, New York, New Jersey, Nevada, Arizona, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia and Louisiana among other places where other adult photographers could join the suit. LG would scrub the photographer's site logo off the picture and put the lazygirls.info logo right onto the picture. You can't do that either.

I've seen videos at xhamster and xvideos where the uploader has edited, blocked or pixelated the site logo off the video. That tells me that the uploader is trying to pull a fast one by uploading altered content. By the way, that would also be considered stolen content. And if the webmaster/webmistress of the site that it was pulled from found out, he or she would want them to take it down. Now xvideos gets more take down requests than xhamster. You'll see "Video was deleted at xvideos" more times than not.

You can use reverse image search engines. For me, Yandex seems to be the most reliable. With Tineye, the change in Google search criteria, i.e. dropping potential copyrighted infringed images from the search, has adversely impacted Tineye. Five or ten years ago, Tineye would come back with pages and pages of results. Put that same image in Tineye now, zero results.

Using a reverse image search, if the picture has a smutty.com or sex.com caption at the bottom, it may lead to an identification at those sites. Members seem to be quite knowledgeable over at those two places. If it comes back in an imgur result best to avoid it altogether because they'd want you to verify your information before you could view any adult content. If it comes back in a Pinterest result. Best to disregard all of them. People who post pictures onto their boards on Pinterest are really clueless. Then Pinterest has the gall to say that an image uploaded to their site is theirs. And they can do what they want with it. That may lead to being banned over there to the uploader/pinner for showing ladies naked from the waist down. You cannot do that -- show naked models below the waist -- over there at Pinterest.

As for namethatpornstar.com ... you can have a picture of Rachel Roxxx. You know it's Rachel Roxxx. Everyone else in the world knows it's Rachel Roxxx. However, the NTP website administrators want links with the pornstar's name, other pornstars who may be in the scene, the name of scene, etc and/or other corroborating evidence in order to get points. The more points you get, the closer you get it to calling it correct. Once it's correct, then it is solved.

Flipping a picture, watermark or not, seems pointless. In the age of RIS, it certainly hinders ID efforts, but I've found that it happens a lot. As the old saying goes, you can't fix stupid.

As for pics with those smutty.com or sex.com captions at the bottom, when I search them, I usually get zero results, but after a quick crop, I can usually get results.

And, I have noticed that Yandex has become more reliable in RIS. Google is nowhere near as good as people think and the only reason I still use Tineye is they have results from ViperGirls, while I've never seen any search on Google give a result from that site.

I use an add-on which searches Google, Tineye and Yandex at the same time. It can also search Baidu and Bing, but why bother. Baidu sucks, and Bing is a piece of shit. As much as I love Microsoft, Internet Explorer and Bing are their greatest failures (IMO).

I rarely use namethatpornstar, because that site annoys me senseless. That CAPTCHA they started using is tedious (why do you have to always do it fucking TWICE?). And, I've had times where I submit a pic, get zero hits, and then submit it on Google, and Google actually finds it on namethatpornstar.

 

[Connor Macleod]

Two things I'd like to see happen:

It's a well know fact that Tineye's search algorithm is far better than Google's. The only reason Google has better results is while Tineye's database is over 40 billion pics, Google is well over 1 trillion. Google should buy out Tineye and they might give Yandex some actual competition.

namethatpornstar should hire someone to write addon's to Firefox/Chrome/etc. This way, they would get more traffic.

 

[CrimsonBolt]

Hi guys you really should bring a new rule in the ID section.
I mean is really annoying to see thread with only links, you have to click on it, and sometimes you got virus from this shity post.
People should always have to insert a pictures in their post.

Here's a perfect exemple
https://board.freeones.com/threads/another-hot-compliation.987736/#post-10868731

It took only two minutes to take these screenshot, everyone can make it on windows or iOS, no excuse for it.

 

[Connor Macleod]

Hi guys you really should bring a new rule in the ID section.
I mean is really annoying to see thread with only links, you have to click on it, and sometimes you got virus from this shity post.
People should always have to insert a pictures in their post.

Here's a perfect exemple
https://board.freeones.com/threads/another-hot-compliation.987736/#post-10868731

It took only two minutes to take these screenshot, everyone can make it on windows or iOS, no excuse for it.

It won't work. 99.999% of those who join never have the thought, "I need to read the rules.". They just go off and do their thing.

Having a rule requiring a pic would be great, but there are too many issues. Some members are not tech-savy and:

Don't know how to use an image host.​

Don't know how to attach a picture.​

Don't know how to save a picture.​

And (my favorite), don't have the sense to check their request thread. They just create new threads.​

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I would much rather have a rule against members who are inconsiderate. They make a request, get their answer, and then nothing. They don't post a thank you, or even give a like. THAT is what I call - shitty.

 

[Connor Macleod]

Does anyone know of any image host that allows webp images?

I've only found one, and although the TOS doesn't say yes or no, I'm thinking it doesn't allow nude/porn images.

 

[nitafaser]

I dont know why i didnt saw this post earlier... started a similar one some month ago but anyways

As mentioned before YANDEX is a pure powerhouse for me... the image reverse is very helpfull but i also use it to "chain" reverse image search... for example i have a picture of a given scene... then i see the results... sometimes there are another pictures of that scene which i use again for reverse image search and so on...

findporface.com is also helpfull.. you have to be extremely lucky to find a non famous star but its fast so you should give it a try.

Especially for older scenes iafd.com is also a good option... when you can recognize another girl/male you can use the "Check Scene Pairings"... but not all movies/scenes are listed there so dont give up if its not there

Same goes for data18.com... lets say you know the name of the male... then you can search for him and search in his "content" where pictures of the scenes are listed.. maybe you recognize the scene and its done.

The last tip i have is to also search for other forums like https://www.eurobabeforum.com/... this forum is very helpfull especially for questions regarding DSO etc. because there are some posts from movies with all girls included or hints for the "unidentified" ones